Its tempting to bow-tank with all your main guns mounted on the bow, but I still recommend angling as you have a tendency to lose turrets when bow-on and with two turrets that cripples your DPS. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. After launching in August and leaving early access, World of Warships: Legends is set to get its first update today, September 16, 2019. III Courbet. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… Also, contrary to what I've seen people say, no ffs they're not HE spammers like British BBs were; use AP most of the time like your IJN, USN, and German BBs. In World of Warships, this build may be considered as the most versatile and can be used for any Battleship of any tier. Wargaming has kicked off its Last Battleship campaign today, which adds both the French Jean Bart and Japanese Yamato battleships to the game for the first time. (bold print added by me.). In the beginning phase of the game it is hard to decide which warship types to develop. World of Warships: Legends brings iconic warships and history’s greatest commanders to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in the ultimate naval action MMO! The French Battleships available in early access are both sleek and powerful. The best solution would be simply testing all the warships of each nation. Also, firing sixteen guns downrange never ever ever ever gets old. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships: Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of history's greatest warships! Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. I'm on the Normadie and I have been shooting HE; not because I want to be an HE spammer, but because I can't citadel with AP. Firing angles are bad, but even a blind potato can hit stuff with 16 guns. Alternatively, you could take BFT as an alternative to Super and that may even be superior if you don't often survive long enough for the extra heal, but I *hate* dying late game when that extra heal could have saved me. I free-XPed out of her after four games, which is very rare for me. By dropping IFHE, I can run Super AND BFT at the same time, giving me a 10% boost to my 2ndary firepower without losing Super. Might not be what you were aiming at but you’ll hit it ? i am only at richelieu and find the gun to be quite accurate. Moves fast and has decent guns. The Tier VI Lyon even carries four quadruple turrets for a … “When it all comes together around two competent teams working together, World of Warships is a glorious pre-World War 2 admiralty fantasy come to life.” 8.3/10 – IGN “Its mix of ponderous warships and huge guns—the biggest guns ever fired in anger by mankind—is beautiful, polished, and a joy to play.” 80/100 – PCGamer She's the only T5 BB that I can't make work. One of the most successful and well-balanced "new generation" battleships in the world. Tier 5: Bretagne is ok. Frankly, Republique doesn't see enough ships with enough 25mm plating to make the opportunity cost of IFHE worth it. Created Sep 12, 2018. The speed, agility, and ability to flank and catch the enemy team in a cross fire cannot be understated. Tier 7 is OP. She handles like a drunk pig; slow and waddling, and her turrets take all day to turn, but once again, this is not uncommon at tier 5. Once I got my 18th capt point, I added IFHE and tripled my average pen damage while only cutting fire damage by about a third. Tier 7: Lyon is definitely not OP, but she's a lot of fun and certainly competitive. As far as IFHE, yes on Alsace, no on Republique. I usually love fast BBs but her turret firing arcs were punitive and I couldn't seem to mitigate damage well enough to compensate for her low hp. If you don't know how to effectively angle, learn or you're not going to enjoy them. A question: Do you use IFHE on your Alsace & République? The Alsace is just a better Richelieu but with less of the quark. World of Warships: Legends have announced their first major update following their August Release featuring a new nation with new ships, commanders, and play-styles. 167. Here's an example of what Republique's secondaries can do. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. TL;DR: On Alsace, putting 4 points into IFHE is a drastic improvement to secondary effectiveness with only a minor opportunity cost (since EM is comparatively less important than it is for Republique.) With a secondary build she is the best ship I've seen at kiting; her secondaries are mounted in back and her firing arcs are very wide for good "over the shoulder" shots. This is with a 16-point captain, so before I had BFT, but with manual secondaries, adrenaline rush, and AFT. Tier 6's observations are interesting. From tier 6 up, and especially from tiers 8-10, the speed allows you to reposition quickly and flex where needed. You're right. I don't have the hull upgrade yet (do have firing range & speed) as I'm being tight with my 120 million credits and 408,000 free XP. So, not going to do 'full reviews' like I did of the British BBs because lazy, but having played up through Alsace, here'smy quick impressions of the French BB line so far: Standard review disclaimer by me: I am an average to a bit above average player who plays mostly solo, so this is from that perspective. Look at the armor model. Tier 9: a lot of competitive ships here, but the best ships are pretty obvious in my opinion, and it really comes down to 3 ships: Kitakaze, Alaska and Georgia. I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. They can set fires ok but that’s about it. Angling baits opponents to fire at your belt and your belt will shrug off most shots; bow-on means opponents will try and snipe your turrets. Taking IFHE on Alsace increases your 2ndary damage, making that opportunity cost worth it, but on Republique it doesn't. Why? One regards the grind to the top tier battleship, and the other answer is in regard to the ship that is most competitively viable In terms of grinding, the French line would be the easiest. I do like Alsace. poeticmotion, March 6, 2018 in French Battleships. The addition of the fourth main gun turret allowed the ship to deliver a unique, 16-gun broadside salvo. She isn't very stealthy (although better than some BBs) but she has great speed to flex around the map, and she has low hp but if angled correctly can be very survivable. She looks potentially fun but has a very high skill floor and will likely require a very good player with the right playstyle to consistently do well in her. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… Republique is ridiculously fun, and for some reason I do better with her than any other tier 10 ship I own even after 60 games to get past the 'low sample size' bump. Welcome Guest. Her guns are punchy af and very accurate, secondaries put out a lot of fire but suffer from her tier (since manual control of secondaries skill is only 15% improvement at tier t5). World of Warships Tier VIII Best Battleships. With IFHE, they can pen up to 27.5mm armor. Also, while I did consult numbers and stats, my reviews are primarily based on the feel of the ship and my performance in her. I was wrong. I rushed to Alsace as I played her on test server and loved her, but I'm in no rush to get Republique. Below you will find a short description of all warship types. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. Tier 9: Alsace is the jewel of the line and my new favorite tier 9 BB. Her guns are a bit derpy dispersion-wise and you need to expose a lot of side to fire all of them, so you have to be good at timing and positioning to do so without getting wrecked. She combines the mid-range accuracy of USN BBs (although with lower alpha strike potential due to small guns) with the secondary-range devastation of a Kurfurst or Friedrich. A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". Best Battleship: Richelieu (France) See Richelieu stats and more here. However, even with her the secondaries don’t do much damage. IronDuke has HE, Kongo great range, NY has range and good pen, Konig has great AP and accuracy, Cesare is..Cesare...Bretagne has nothing..poor accuracy, poor shell performance, poor range and poor speed...just an overall dog. I was doing some digging the other day and found out some interesting stuff about Battleship guns and their actual reload times. Their defining feature has to be quadruple-gun turrets! I'll write up a full review at some point but she's an incredibly good ship for a player who plays aggressively and can aim well. With Richelieu, I got 3 citadels on an FDG at 18 km in two consecutive salvos. Russian destroyersare an oddity; they frequently feel as if they have the powerful, fast-firing guns of their American counterparts mounted in the arduously slow-turning turrets of the Japanese destroyer line. I went with an AA build as I don't feel shell dispersion is all that bad especially when she has 16 guns. For the most skilled players, two … She shares the 3x3 152mm secondaries of Alsace, although 2 in front/1 in rear whereas Alsace is 1 in front/2 in rear. I need to replay those games while we still have the current patch, look at the ribbons, and see exactly what happened to those shells when I'm NOT concentrating on fighting for my life. She's wicked fast, has 12 undersized but accurate main guns (dispersion gets wonky near max range but from 11-13 km in they're deadly), her secondaries will merrily light fires and add damage, and her secondaries have more 360-degree coverage than Richelieu. It's a bit too RNG-dependent to count on setting fires against BBs with your 100mm secondaries and they won't ever pen anything on a BB, but it's a nice bonus. Why this ship owns this tier: France takes tier VIII with the Richelieu. Alsace can brawl like a champ (although you're not as tanky as Germans and have to be VERY mindful of your angles, and you want to stay a bit farther back, closer to the edge of your secondary range), but she feels like she is much more accurate at longer ranges with her main battery than Germans. She can get wrecked by any BB she’ll meet from the stern. This was a match where I ended up only engaging BBs (which is unusual for me), but still got 35k direct damage plus 55k fire damage from my secondaries. Her disadvantages included weak torpedo protection. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. V NORMANDIE. Its really off putting going from pretty standard AP, to fast super high pen AP that overpens everything, but once I got used to it I was consistently getting high damage, but still frustrating to play for me because I hate seeing overpen broadsides at all distances, and sub 10k broadside BBs, but still, was doing very well and I went from hating it to loving it very quickly. The ship carried twelve 305 mm main guns and powerful secondary guns. Battleships in World of Warships are what you play when you don't understand anything about actual naval warfare, and think they are the only type of ship ever used (This is a joke, but it's kinda true.) A flotilla of Italian Warships is headed to World of Warships: Legends in the new Veni, Vidi, Vici update. This is not a suggestion thread BTW . overall a pretty good bote. Awesome! This is of course a limited sample size, and is affected by my playstyle (which is generally fairly aggressive leading to occasional overreaches and a low survival rate.) So for Alsace, IFHE is a no-brainer in a brawler build (and there are several viable builds for Alsace, but given my playstyle and the strengths of the ship, I strongly prefer a brawler build. 11 sec reload). World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. But firing SIXTEEN main guns downrange means you're going to get hits even with weird dispersion. They have fairly strong secondaries. And don’t neglect those pesky DDs or smoking cruisers. At the Lyon currently, a great ship with surprisingly good AA. It probably doubled my overall secondary damage. The construction of such turrets was driven by the desire to achieve maximum broadside firepower given the ship's limited size. Added in Update 0.7.2, French battleships start at low tier with traditional dreadnought-style designs, but shift to designs more akin to battlecruisers at higher tiers. :). Well at least Nassau was built that way, and is the ship, the ship, the Kawachi is based on. With low hp and good armor, angling is key with these ships. She's absolutely amazeballs. But her 152mm secondaries also fire much faster, approx. Oh, I should mention, French BBs are the most romantic ships, while the French CAs try to play hard to get, the BBs like to get up close and sneak in a kiss (ram), although you may get in trouble for kissing those underage Anime ships, you have to do it, For FRANCE!!! IJN: Mikasa's 305 mm/40 41st Year Type: 1 round per minute or 60 sec reload* Kawachi's 305 mm/45 41st Year Type: 2 rounds per minute or 30 sec reload Ishizuchi's 305 mm/45 Mk10: ~1.5 rounds per … The Nelson-class were the only Royal Navy battleships armed with 16-inch guns and... Jump to. Shatters and overpens aplenty. I am also trying too hard to erase destroyers and other fast, hard-to-hit threats, and that means my barrels are often unloaded when I should have them ready for bigger, slower ships. And aside from 25mm common plate, there is nothing the 127mm guns can pen with IFHE that she wouldn't otherwise be able to without it. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. With Tier 5 I generally agree, though I'd like to get past my Orion and play the Iron Duke for a while to have another Tier 5 battleship against which to compare her (not that there is that much difference between the Orion and the Duke in the first place, but their matchmaking is different and that will alter perceptions). Thanks for sharing your experiences @poeticmotion. Someone said something like “quantity has a quality all its own.” Plus Tier 7 is the sweet spot in current matchmaking. I find getting citadel hits with the Lyon is pretty easy against both cruisers and BBs. There are two different answers to this question. She may be workable for you; I admit four games is not enough to get a good feel for a ship. She looks potentially fun but has a very high skill floor and will likely require a very good player with the right playstyle to consistently do well in her. Good writeup and I agree with everything you said thus far. World of Warships is a free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer online game produced and published by Wargaming, following the earlier games World of Tanks and World of Warplanes.Players can battle others at random or play cooperative battle types against bots or an advanced player versus environment (PvE) battle mode. Filter by flair. I'm getting probably 75% of my secondary damage in Alsace from fires. They don't matter anyway, it takes a few games to grind through a tier 3 or 4 and honestly, nothing can ever beat Orion. Overall, which would you say was your favorite ship you tried out? I prefer main gun accuracy over secondary range, especially with these inconsistent French BBs. Normandie was a French battleship under construction before and during World War I. ! WITH IFHE: All BB targets were destroyed within 2 minutes. Lyon is hysterical. The biggest bump was getting used to the Richelieu's guns. The new campaign for the update features a battleship to bolster the Italian nation as well, the elegant Roma. Sadly, not everyone has time and money for that. I found Bretagne to be a dog. These ships were developed directly from the ships of the preceding class but carried 340 mm guns arranged under a more rational scheme. But, the only benefit of IFHE is the ability to pen armor thicker than you would otherwise be able to. The first French battleship design with the main battery guns placed in three quadruple gun turrets. The ship had good torpedo protection, carried numerous dual-purpose guns and had powerful horizontal armor. I tested it both ways; I did without IFHE for my first sixty games in Alsace, and did a ton of fire damage but not a lot of direct pen damage. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. She's wicked fast, has 12 undersized but accurate main guns (dispersion gets wonky near max range but from 11-13 km in they're deadly), her secondaries will merrily light fires and add damage, and her secondaries have more 360-degree coverage than Richelieu. @HazeGrayUnderway did some systematic testing in a training room for some less anecdotal data, shown in quote below: In training room tests, I've timed my Alsace Secondaries to fire for 2 minutes each on FDG, Alsace, Missouri, Izumo, Lion targets. A flotilla of Italian Warships is headed to World of Warships: Legends in the new Veni, Vidi, Vici update. ), Thank you very much for taking the time to answer, poetic motion (and such a detailed reply too). But if you can stay angled you'll shrug off a lot of potential damage despite her low HP and her guns will decimate same-tier BBs or any cruiser. All of the French BBs seem to have wonky dispersion and shell hits are unpredictable. Also, contrary to what I've seen people say. Please Login or Register. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… Lyon can fire broadsides at least 30 degrees ahead and 45 degrees abaft, which is workable enough that I can claim "If I said this was balanced, I'd be Lyon my [stern] off". In 2 minutes: WITHOUT IFHE: BB targets survived with around 27k-32k HP remaining. 100Mm secondaries or hybrid secondary/survival build difference is she has 8x2 127mm secondaries in place of the preceding class carried. 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